On Wednesday, Huffington Post blogger Frank Schaeffer, son of the late best-selling author and conservative Christian philosopher Francis Schaeffer, appeared on MSNBC to promote his new book Sex, Mom, and God: How the Bible’s Strange Take on Sex Led to Crazy Politics–and How I Learned to Love Women (and Jesus) Anyway.

The book opens with Schaeffer alluding to having had sex with an ice sculpture.

On MSNBC, he wasted no time in lambasting Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry’s personal beliefs, branding them as dangerous and not in tune with the “real America.” Schaeffer then slammed evangelicals, claiming that they “hate the United States,” among other charges.

When speaking with Richard Lui, who was guest-hosting for Martin Bashir, Schaeffer said of Bachmann and her supporters:

“…these people actually hate the United States as it is. Look, they love a fictional, Christian America that wouldn’t include gay people, does not have choice and abortion rights for women and all the rest of this. But, in terms of the real America, inclusive, diverse, sustaining of gay people as well as heterosexuals and so forth, this is an America they despise and that’s why they talk in terms of taking it back, from whom? That would be from the rest of us, ordinary American citizens under the rule of law.”

Earlier in the interview, he said Republicans need to choose to either be “a normal political party” or a “theocracy in waiting.” Then, he charged that Bachmann would “…produce a theocracy in the country where the Bible would be paramount and no longer the Constitution or the Bill of Rights.”